R.I.P. Republican Party

dusty7 wrote:

ramblinman wrote:

dusty7 wrote:Wait...I thought this was all supposed to stop.

Said nobody.

Lot's of people said that Trump's words were the source of the violence and hatred in America. Now he has no position of power and no voice to communicate with the people and this is still happening.  These are left-wingers committing domestic terrorism but every state increased security at their Capitol buildings yesterday over fear of right-wingers.  I have not heard of anything happening other than what has happened in Portland and Seattle.

Violence and hatred existed in America before Trump and they will exist after him. "Lot's (sic) of people said?" Reminds me of Trump and his penchant to float trial balloons and legitimize/rationalize his positions by stating "some people are saying" without ever saying who, exactly, was saying it. Regardless, lots of people may have been saying that Trump's words helped to fan the ever burning flames of hatred and violence in our country, but I do not believe that lots said that Trump's words were "the source" (italics my own to emphasize the article "the" modifying the singular word "source") of violence and hatred in America. Had you said "a source" instead of "the source" you wouldn't have been wrong.

dusty7 wrote:

ramblinman wrote:

dusty7 wrote:Wait...I thought this was all supposed to stop.

Said nobody.

Lot's of people said that Trump's words were the source of the violence and hatred in America.

For the seditious attack on the Capitol building, I think that's right. Lot's of people did say that...from both sides of the aisle.

As for the violence and rioting this summer, I think most people said the root cause was the murder of George Floyd.

Head Idiot wrote:

Teetime wrote:

Head Idiot wrote:One of my favorite ironies of current Democrat policies-

Domestically- America is a morally corrupt empire founded by elitist/racist/mysoginist white men filled with racist bigots who have made a mess of the world and ruined the planet.

You are very inventive. I have never heard a Democrat say that or seen a policy statement that said that.

You really don't listen to your people do you?

It shouldn't be hard for you to Google that and find a Democrat that said those words. There must be thousands.

So, I assume the 1619 Project being shoved into schools in Blue states and the repeated blaming of current events on the longstanding systemic racism doesn't count?

Biden admin spox disobeying the mask eo talking about biden disobeying the mask eo. "He was celebrating." lol. Good for thee. Presidents' words matter.

Head Idiot wrote:

ramblinman wrote:

Head Idiot wrote:Hey, Fox is a private company. They can do whatever they wish to with their company.

Isn't that what we're using to defend Twitter's banning of conservatives?

Pretty sure your buddy Tee brought up the Fox guy getting canned not as any sort of complaint against Fox but more as an interesting commentary of somebody getting canned from Fox for apparently running afoul of Fox viewers for reporting the truth about the election.

But, yeah, Fox is absolutely well within their rights as a private company to fire whoever they want for pretty much whatever they want as long as they don't violate discrimination related employment laws.

Regarding Twitter, are they banning ALL conservatives or just those who violate the terms of use agreement that they agreed to when they signed up?  

Here's a thought for ya...as litigious as Trump is, why isn't he seeking a TRO reversing the ban or suing Twitter if he thought he stood half a chance of getting back on the platform that he uses more than any other to communicate with his followers?  Hell, he stood practically zero chance of winning any of the several dozen election lawsuits he filed and that didn't stop him from going to court.  Why isn't he suing Twitter into another galaxy?

I don't know who they're banning as I banned myself a year ago.

Thing is, they're only banning conservatives for violating terms. If you're a Nation of Islam member you can claim white people are the devil and they should be iradicated and not a damn thing happens. Or you can claim the President's son should be locked in a cage with pedophiles and nothing happens. There is no consistency at all.

looks like twitter is ok with child porn too.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-sued-by-sex-trafficking-survivor

Head Idiot wrote:So, I assume the 1619 Project being shoved into schools in Blue states and the repeated blaming of current events on the longstanding systemic racism doesn't count?

Do political parties set the curriculum at schools?

I thought that was school administrators and teachers, occasionally school boards.

Is your Google machine broken? I thought you would have dozens of examples of that fiction you created?

Teetime wrote:

Head Idiot wrote:So, I assume the 1619 Project being shoved into schools in Blue states and the repeated blaming of current events on the longstanding systemic racism doesn't count?

Do political parties set the curriculum at schools?

I thought that was school administrators and teachers, occasionally school boards.

Is your Google machine broken? I thought you would have dozens of examples of that fiction you created?

Clearly you jest about "Do political parties set the curriculum at schools?" or is that a word play? Political parties as their own entity typically do not set curriculum at schools, but the political party in charge sets policy that dictates curriculum all the time. You have heard of Standardized Testing right?? NCLB?? IAR??

Teetime wrote:

Head Idiot wrote:So, I assume the 1619 Project being shoved into schools in Blue states and the repeated blaming of current events on the longstanding systemic racism doesn't count?

Do political parties set the curriculum at schools?

I thought that was school administrators and teachers, occasionally school boards.

Learning standards are set by the state and they have the ability to set mandates on certain things that have to be taught in schools. This would likely become a mandate much like things such as the Flag Code, Americans with Disabilities Act, Medal of Honor, LGBTQ contributions, etc., if you want to maintain accreditation. How you go about teaching these things is up to the school boards/administration and ultimately the classroom teacher. The Feds set mandates on the states, states set mandates on these schools, admins oversee that the mandates are being following. I have had the pleasure of being audited by the Regional Office and showing proof that I follow the mandates. It is not a fun process.

As time goes on, schools are losing more and more control of their curriculum. This started with No Child Left Behind under George W. Bush because of the mandates placed on funding directly related to standardized test scores. So schools were forced to vacate some of their local decision to focus on improving nationwide standardized test scores. Then came Common Core under Obama which created nationalized standards but states have the ability to input their own standards.

So do political parties set the curriculum at schools? Becuase of NCLB and Common Core, they do not necessarily set the curriculum but they definitely play a role and that role it getting bigger as the federal government becomes more involved in

Are any of you being forced to teach the 1619 project by the Democratic Party as Head Idiot suggested?

This is a blue state. He says this is where it’s happening.

Teetime wrote:Are any of you being forced to teach the 1619 project by the Democratic Party as Head Idiot suggested?

This is a blue state. He says this is where it’s happening.

With HI being a former teacher, I am going to assume that he means it will eventually be mandated by the feds or states. At this particular moment, no we are not being forced no but I can definitely see it being forces upon is in the future.

Chicago's public school district—one of the largest in the country—has been openly using the 1619 Project in their curricula for some time

Dr. Janice Jackson, the CEO of Chicago Public Schools (CPS), wrote that "every CPS high school will receive 200–400 copies of The New York Times' The 1619 Project"

Tee- remember when you complained about Americans questioning "experts"? You're out of your depth here.

Nice-

“Yesterday dozens of senators and congressmen walked down our lines taking photos, shaking our hands and thanking us for our service. Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. We feel incredibly betrayed,” the Guardsman said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/national-guard-troops-vacate-capitol-461220

Head Idiot wrote:Tee- remember when you complained about Americans questioning "experts"? You're out of your depth here.

Fair enough.

You are probably right.

OSUBucks wrote:A lot of these smaller population, conservative leaning states will never go fir it, the current system works to their advantage.

You think we have a rural/urban problem now? Wait until 7/8ths of the country's land mass is ruled by the 1/8th.

Head Idiot wrote:Nice-

“Yesterday dozens of senators and congressmen walked down our lines taking photos, shaking our hands and thanking us for our service. Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. We feel incredibly betrayed,” the Guardsman said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/national-guard-troops-vacate-capitol-461220

it was a nice photo op...

Head Idiot wrote:

OSUBucks wrote:A lot of these smaller population, conservative leaning states will never go fir it, the current system works to their advantage.

You think we have a rural/urban problem now? Wait until 7/8ths of the country's land mass is ruled by the 1/8th.

Luckily, land mass is incapable of sedition or treasonous rebellion.

Head Idiot wrote:Nice-

“Yesterday dozens of senators and congressmen walked down our lines taking photos, shaking our hands and thanking us for our service. Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage. We feel incredibly betrayed,” the Guardsman said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/national-guard-troops-vacate-capitol-461220

Jill Biden visited the national guard on Friday to express thanks. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jill-biden-national-guard-joe-biden-inauguration-cookies

Teetime wrote:

Head Idiot wrote:

OSUBucks wrote:A lot of these smaller population, conservative leaning states will never go fir it, the current system works to their advantage.

You think we have a rural/urban problem now? Wait until 7/8ths of the country's land mass is ruled by the 1/8th.

Luckily, land mass is incapable of sedition or treasonous rebellion.

Or voting.

Teetime wrote:

Head Idiot wrote:

OSUBucks wrote:A lot of these smaller population, conservative leaning states will never go fir it, the current system works to their advantage.

You think we have a rural/urban problem now? Wait until 7/8ths of the country's land mass is ruled by the 1/8th.

Luckily, land mass is incapable of sedition or treasonous rebellion.

Thank God those more patriotic city folk never attack government buildings...

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/protestors-break-into-bellingham-city-hall-mayor-rushed-out-safety/OS47ML7HJRC5PDI6CV47IHB75A/

ramblinman wrote:Jill Biden visited the national guard on Friday to express thanks.  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jill-biden-national-guard-joe-biden-inauguration-cookies

Awww...

Good for her.

My favorite part of the article-

Nearly 25,000 troops descended on Washington, D.C., in the days leading up to the inauguration, as officials remained on heightened alert for rouge actors looking to stir up violence.

God danged over cosmeticed actors...

Thank God Joe's looking out for the little guys!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-trump-hhs-rule-lower-insulin-prices

The measures are just being put on hold until they can be reviewed is the way I read it.

OSUBucks wrote:The measures are just being put on hold until they can be reviewed is the way I read it.

Riiiiiiight...