Joe Biden Innocent or Not Guilty

OSUBucks wrote:I was thinking today that the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, 55 years ago. Now we have one of our two Major political parties and sitting President actively involved in voter suppression. A lot of people will tell you that our country is the greatest in the world. If true that doesn't say much for the rest of the world.

Is there any provisions in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that deal with the opposite of Suppression? Voter Inflation maybe? Like illegals voting, lowering the age, or allowing incarcerated people to vote. All of those were initiatives of the left at one point or another in the last election cycle. Just because one state says certain parameters qualify as a legal voter, does that mean all states have to accept that standard in a Federal election?

Count EVERY LEGAL VOTE is what the mantra should be. Anyone who encourages suppression of LEGAL VOTES is a problem. Anyone who encourages counting ANY VOTE is a problem.

I agree 100% that this is a problem and one that should be taken care of...here's my issue. Trump has had 4 years to fix this...he claims all these things happened to him in 2016 and he still won. If it were that concerning to him, and if he were truly worried about the Democrats 'stealing' the election from him, why didn't he fix the problem?

OSUBucks wrote:GOP US Attorneys are calling Trump out. Count every vote!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-appointed-former-u-s-attorneys-hereby-call-on-trump-to-let-vote-counting-continue/ar-BB1aJeDC

"The group endorsed Biden last month" from your link. Nuff said....

Count every legal vote!

You know, just because BW says dead people are voting and GM says illegals are voting and just because the President of the United States sits in his bed all night tweeting about how the election is being stolen away from him, without a speck of proof, doesn't make it so.

All any of that does is undermine one of the foundations of our fragile democracy.

Well, we're not a democracy, but i digress.

Teetime wrote:You know, just because BW says dead people are voting and GM says illegals are voting and just because the President of the United States sits in his bed all night tweeting about how the election is being stolen away from him, without a speck of proof, doesn't make it so.

All any of that does is undermine one of the foundations of our fragile democracy.

This guy gets it...how can smart people really support that guy?

Constitutional Republic!

Teetime wrote:You know, just because BW says dead people are voting and GM says illegals are voting and just because the President of the United States sits in his bed all night tweeting about how the election is being stolen away from him, without a speck of proof, doesn't make it so.

All any of that does is undermine one of the foundations of our fragile democracy.

Those "specks of proof" would be suppressed just like the stories of Hunter's computer. Do you dismiss the "finding" of ballots? Do you dismiss the locking out of Republican Poll watchers, do you dispute the finding of ballots for Trump that were dumped in a ditch? And let us all understand, these are the ones that are marginally covered by the left media. If these things were happening on the other side, it would be covered ad nauseum.

If the shoe was on the other foot, the cancel culture of the left would be losing their minds. If we cannot all come to an understanding that the media is no longer tyrannically biased and controls the flow of information, then we will never be able to have a culture of candor necessary for genuine debate and thus understanding.

BirdWatcher wrote:

OSUBucks wrote:GOP US Attorneys are calling Trump out. Count every vote!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-appointed-former-u-s-attorneys-hereby-call-on-trump-to-let-vote-counting-continue/ar-BB1aJeDC

"The group endorsed Biden last month"  from your link.  Nuff said....

Count every legal vote!

The problem is, Trump is challenging votes as to whether they're legal or not by going state to state and challenging laws that have been in place for years...I'm not saying they're good laws, but he's known this was a possibility for quite some time. As quick as he is to have knee jerk reactions to things and pass Executive Orders to flex his muscle, why wouldn't he flex his muscle and do something about this? He sure as crap has no issue calling out Governors who don't do what he likes during the Pandemic. Wait a minute...wait a minute...if he'd done something ahead of time, he wouldn't be able to claim fraud if he lost now...(slaps head with palm), now I get it. Heck, Arizona has a Republican Governor. And there is a Democratic Governor of PA, but the legislature has a Republican majority and has since 2010.

general maximus wrote:Constitutional Republic!

Teetime wrote:You know, just because BW says dead people are voting and GM says illegals are voting and just because the President of the United States sits in his bed all night tweeting about how the election is being stolen away from him, without a speck of proof, doesn't make it so.

All any of that does is undermine one of the foundations of our fragile democracy.

Those "specks of proof" would be suppressed just like the stories of Hunter's computer.  Do you dismiss the "finding" of ballots?  Do you dismiss the locking out of Republican Poll watchers, do you dispute the finding of ballots for Trump that were dumped in a ditch?  And let us all understand, these are the ones that are marginally covered by the left media.  If these things were happening on the other side, it would be covered ad nauseum.  

If the shoe was on the other foot, the cancel culture of the left would be losing their minds.  If we cannot all come to an understanding that the media is no longer tyrannically biased and controls the flow of information, then we will never be able to have a culture of candor necessary for genuine debate and thus understanding.  

I completely agree about the shoe being on the other foot...but I'd love to hear what proof that these things have happened do you have?

lefty120 wrote:

Teetime wrote:You know, just because BW says dead people are voting and GM says illegals are voting and just because the President of the United States sits in his bed all night tweeting about how the election is being stolen away from him, without a speck of proof, doesn't make it so.

All any of that does is undermine one of the foundations of our fragile democracy.

This guy gets it...how can smart people really support that guy?  

I don't agree with the Democrats on a lot of things, gun rights would be one example. I am an Independent and vote for the individual, not the party. I support equal rights for all law abiding citizens in this country. Trump does not. He's not worried about illegal voting, he wants to win the election at all costs. His massive ego will have a hard time dealing with losing this election, if that does happen. He's the biggest SOB to live in the White House in my lifetime.

general maximus wrote:Those "specks of proof" would be suppressed just like the stories of Hunter's computer.  Do you dismiss the "finding" of ballots?  Do you dismiss the locking out of Republican Poll watchers, do you dispute the finding of ballots for Trump that were dumped in a ditch?  And let us all understand, these are the ones that are marginally covered by the left media.  If these things were happening on the other side, it would be covered ad nauseum.

So then, yes. There is not speck of proof.

Nor, it appears, does it make any difference at all to those of you that choose to make these claims without proof.

OSUBucks wrote:I support equal rights for all law abiding citizens in this country. Trump does not.

Have an example of this? Remember, you said 'citizens', not residents.

Teetime wrote: There is not  speck of proof.

But there is a history... especially in Philly

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-philadelphia-judge-elections-convicted-conspiring-violate-civil-rights-and-bribery

BirdWatcher wrote:But there is a history... especially in Philly

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-philadelphia-judge-elections-convicted-conspiring-violate-civil-rights-and-bribery

This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not erase what he did, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions,” said U.S. Attorney William M. McSwain of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. “Voting is the cornerstone of our democracy. If even one vote is fraudulently rung up, the integrity of that election is compromised. I want the public to know that this investigation is active and ongoing, and my Office is taking every possible step that we can to ensure the integrity of the upcoming primary and general elections in the nine counties of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.”

That guy is the US Attorney...he says we have a democracy.

BirdWatcher wrote:But there is a history... especially in Philly

That doesn't mean squat in this election. You know that.

There is a pretty good chance that NOTHING that happens in Pennsylvania will matter in this election.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?477710-1/president-trump-remarks-election-status


These remarks made by our President at 1:30 am on November 4th claim that counting the votes from the election that had ended just hours before was a disgrace for our nation. That it was a "sad group of people trying to disenfranchise the rest of the people".

They were counting the damn votes.

Trump's people are promising to litigate the election results and are making accusations of fraudulent voting. They have zero evidence, it's intended to fire up their supporters and get them out in the street to protest. You will never see a bigger bunch of sore losers in your life. The country will be better off once that lying SOB is gone.

I think Biden wins PA by at least 100k votes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-wallace-shoots-down-trump-and-fox-news-stars-election-fraud-lies/ar-BB1aJp16

OSUBucks wrote: You will never see a bigger bunch of sore losers in your life.

#Resist

Head Idiot wrote:

OSUBucks wrote: You will never see a bigger bunch of sore losers in your life.

#Resist

I hope I don't turn on the TV and see you out there protesting and vandalizing.

I won't be. I have to work.

Unlike most of the #Resist ers.

Biden received the most votes ever, and counting, after spending weeks in his basement and answering no serious questions. Seems legit...

Taking a long time to 'count' all those 'discovered' ballots. It must take longer if u have to color in that little oval first...

No serious questions? Please. He gave way more direct answers to issues than Trump ever has. Still waiting for that sparkling health care program that’s going to save us all and is so much better than ObamaCare. We will get that I’m sure when we see the evidence of voter fraud from PA where there is a Republican Secretary of State responsible for counting ballots. Or maybe the Republican Governor of AZ will help fix stuff for him. Or what about the Republican Governor of GA? Yeah, there’s a ton of people in Trumps corner who will for sure make this right for him.

Teetime wrote:All any of that does is undermine one of the foundations of our fragile democracy.

In no way are we a Democracy or even a Democratic Republic at this point. We are an Oligarchy and the common people are just pawns for the elite to maintain control for the purposes of benefitting themselves at the expense of the people.

Need proof... for the Fair Tax our Governor spent $56 million to get people to support the plan while Ken Griffen spent $54 million to get people to oppose the plan. Why would the two richest men in the state spend $110 million on commercials and advertising? The answer, to benefit themselves, whether it be political notoriety (Pritzker) or their pocketbooks (Griffen). It had nothing to do with benefitting the people of Illinois, it was a power struggle between these two and we were merely pawns in this power struggle. Imagine if they would have spent this amount of money to the state general fund, education, or COVID relief. This is such a small amount of money for these two they don't even notice they lost it.

The same goes for the President, Senate leaders, and House Leaders. They are so far out of touch with the common people, they have no clue what our lives are really like. They will say anything to gain our support or attack those who oppose them for the purposes of maintaining power for their chosen elitist group.

Any smart person would realize that Trump is just trying to feed his ego while Biden is just a puppet. Neither is in it to help us lowly commoners and if you believe they are you are living in a dream world. Our country is ran by the rich for the rich. They all benefit off of the laws they create because of the lobbyist while we sit here thinking our vote means something, it doesn't. They don't listen to the people they listen to the elites, they are the only ones who matter.

Freudian slip
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/24/joe-biden-says-democrats-created-the-most-extensive-and-inclusive-voter-fraud-organization-in-american-history/#.X6Siy_0BTRE.twitter