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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:33 am

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Head Idiot wrote:It's went up 10-20 cents in some spots in Decatur in the past 2 weeks.

But we have seen those type of price fluctuations pretty regularly over the past 4 years. Biden has been President for a week.
The price of crude has been on the rise since Biden's election. Shortening supply isn't going to cut prices.
Crude was $36 on October 26. It is $53 today.
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Post by dusty7 Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:35 am

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I don't think you will see a lot of Biden holding press briefings every time he walks out of the White House like Trump did. Many things will be different from the Trump administration.

Why not hold press briefings? Isn't it important that we see our leader and have the ability to speak to our leader? The press briefings provide some transparency to the president and the decision he decides to make. The longer he chooses to stay away from the media the less likely the American people are going to trust his decisions.

Right now we are in the honeymoon phase where everything he does is golden but what is going to happen when some of these policies begin to fail? Not all of the EO's are going to be successful and solve the problems and how will the people react when he continues to dodge the presses and the media?

As many on this board have said, the President is the most powerful man in the world and his words mean something and have a significant influence on the actions of people. Maybe if he spoke up, more people would listen.
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Post by ramblinman Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:35 am

tps wrote:Wall street is losing their shit today because a bunch of gamers got together and messed up hedge fund short sales ($GME). How long before biden changes those rules to help his wall street buddies?

A bunch of gamers? You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. As usual.

Educate yourself: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/27/gamestop-stock-market-retail-wall-street
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Post by dusty7 Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:37 am

tps wrote:Wall street is losing their shit today because a bunch of gamers got together and messed up hedge fund short sales ($GME). How long before biden changes those rules to help his wall street buddies?

Well, the President didn't change the rules but the rules did change. Didn't see this happen when COVID started, oh that because it involved high-ranking members of Congress.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/gamestop-speculation-is-danger-to-whole-market-massachusetts-regulator.html
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Post by dusty7 Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:39 am

Head Idiot wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
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Head Idiot wrote:It's went up 10-20 cents in some spots in Decatur in the past 2 weeks.

But we have seen those type of price fluctuations pretty regularly over the past 4 years. Biden has been President for a week.
The price of crude has been on the rise since Biden's election. Shortening supply isn't going to cut prices.
Crude was $36 on October 26. It is $53 today.

Gas prices will average $4.00 here before too long if this keeps up. And if this pipeline in Michigan gets shut down, prices in Illinois could go even higher.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/enbridge-rejects-michigans-demand-to-shut-down-oil-pipeline
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Post by ramblinman Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:47 am

tps wrote:leahy will preside - but first had to take a special oath to be impartial - because that will make a difference. lol

All senators, including the likes of Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, took an oath of impartiality.

Here is what Mitch McConnell said during the first Trump impeachment process: "I'm not an impartial juror. This is a political process. There's not anything judicial about it. Impeachment is a political decision."

And here is what he is saying now: “It is absolutely imperative that we do not allow a half-baked process to short-circuit the due process that former President Trump deserves, or damage the Senate or the presidency.” This from the same man who wouldn’t allow any testimony at all at Trump’s first impeachment trial. What a sick joke.

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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:48 am

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Teetime wrote:

I don't think you will see a lot of Biden holding press briefings every time he walks out of the White House like Trump did. Many things will be different from the Trump administration.

Why not hold press briefings?  Isn't it important that we see our leader and have the ability to speak to our leader?
Remember when the White House stopped doing daily press briefings and the press said they were ending a time honored tradition and how horrible it was?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/stephanie-grisham-white-house-press-briefings-1507288

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/22/us/politics/white-house-press-briefing.html
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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:56 am

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tps wrote:leahy will preside - but first had to take a special oath to be impartial - because that will make a difference. lol

All senators, including the likes of Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, took an oath of impartiality.

Here is what Mitch McConnell said during the first Trump impeachment process:  "I'm not an impartial juror.  This is a political process. There's not anything judicial about it.  Impeachment is a political decision."

And here is what he is saying now:  “It is absolutely imperative that we do not allow a half-baked process to short-circuit the due process that former President Trump deserves, or damage the Senate or the presidency.”   This from the same man who wouldn’t allow any testimony at all at Trump’s first impeachment trial.  What a sick joke.

You leave out that the House of Representatives didn't allow any Trump defense or involvement in their "investigation" into the first charges of impeachment. McConnell's quote from the first trial has a bit different meaning when seen in that context.
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Post by tps Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:59 am

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tps wrote:Wall street is losing their shit today because a bunch of gamers got together and messed up hedge fund short sales ($GME). How long before biden changes those rules to help his wall street buddies?

A bunch of gamers?  You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.  As usual.

Educate yourself:  https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/27/gamestop-stock-market-retail-wall-street

wrong how? because i used the term 'gamer' instead of 'small investor" (wallstreetbets   https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/).  per usual you jump on semantics or punctuation or grammar to try to discredit this dumb hick's post.


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Post by tps Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:00 pm

ramblinman wrote:
tps wrote:leahy will preside - but first had to take a special oath to be impartial - because that will make a difference. lol

All senators, including the likes of Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, took an oath of impartiality.

Here is what Mitch McConnell said during the first Trump impeachment process:  "I'm not an impartial juror.  This is a political process. There's not anything judicial about it.  Impeachment is a political decision."

And here is what he is saying now:  “It is absolutely imperative that we do not allow a half-baked process to short-circuit the due process that former President Trump deserves, or damage the Senate or the presidency.”   This from the same man who wouldn’t allow any testimony at all at Trump’s first impeachment trial.  What a sick joke.


ya, but leahy took a special oath so he could preside...

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Post by Teetime Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:05 pm

Head Idiot wrote:The price of crude has been on the rise since Biden's election. Shortening supply isn't going to cut prices.


The price of crude was $53.49 p/b on February 19, 2020. Today it is at $53.27 p/b.

It goes up, it goes down...it has very little to do with the president.

It did spike up on January 6th as news of the Capitol building being sacked by domestic terrorists spread throughout the world.

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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:12 pm

Teetime wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:The price of crude has been on the rise since Biden's election. Shortening supply isn't going to cut prices.


The price of crude was $53.49 p/b on February 19, 2020. Today it is at $53.27 p/b.

It goes up, it goes down...it has very little to do with the president.

It did spike up on January 6th as news of the Capitol building being sacked by domestic terrorists spread throughout the world.
It was 49.93 on January 5th. It was 50.63 on January 6th. It was 50.83 on January 7th.

I'm failing to see a "spike".
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Post by Teetime Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:13 pm

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Teetime wrote:

I don't think you will see a lot of Biden holding press briefings every time he walks out of the White House like Trump did. Many things will be different from the Trump administration.

Why not hold press briefings?  Isn't it important that we see our leader and have the ability to speak to our leader?
Remember when the White House stopped doing daily press briefings and the press said they were ending a time honored tradition and how horrible it was?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/stephanie-grisham-white-house-press-briefings-1507288

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/22/us/politics/white-house-press-briefing.html


You are confusing press briefings by the Press Secretary (those are ongoing in the Biden admin.) with Presidential meetings with the press (which won't occur much with Biden).

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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:15 pm

Teetime wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
dusty7 wrote:
Teetime wrote:

I don't think you will see a lot of Biden holding press briefings every time he walks out of the White House like Trump did. Many things will be different from the Trump administration.

Why not hold press briefings?  Isn't it important that we see our leader and have the ability to speak to our leader?
Remember when the White House stopped doing daily press briefings and the press said they were ending a time honored tradition and how horrible it was?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/stephanie-grisham-white-house-press-briefings-1507288

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/22/us/politics/white-house-press-briefing.html


You are confusing press briefings by the Press Secretary (those are ongoing in the Biden admin.) with Presidential meetings with the press (which won't occur much with Biden).
True, but those Trump meetings were in part to take the place of those other briefings.

Let's also be honest- the media will not ask as many questions should the Biden White House go dark for extended periods of time.

Besides, any time they ask him a tough question all they get is "C'mon man".


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Post by Teetime Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:16 pm

Head Idiot wrote:You leave out that the House of Representatives didn't allow any Trump defense or involvement in their "investigation" into the first charges of impeachment. McConnell's quote from the first trial has a bit different meaning when seen in that context.


You don't remember the House hearings on impeachment and all of the testimony with both sides doing equal amounts of questioning? (Col. Vindman et.al.)

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Post by Teetime Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:21 pm

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It was 49.93 on January 5th. It was 50.63 on January 6th. It was 50.83 on January 7th.

I'm failing to see a "spike".

West Texas Crude:

$47.62 1/4/21
$50.63 1/6/21
$52.25 1/11/21

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Post by Teetime Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:24 pm

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Let's also be honest- the media will not ask as many questions should the Biden White House go dark for extended periods of time.

Besides, any time they ask him a tough question all they get is "C'mon man".


Let's be honest...Trump rarely spoke much truth when he met with the press, he was an expert at getting the gullible to believe oft repeated lies.

"Come on man" is much more refreshing than a lie.

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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:27 pm

Teetime wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
Let's also be honest- the media will not ask as many questions should the Biden White House go dark for extended periods of time.

Besides, any time they ask him a tough question all they get is "C'mon man".


Let's be honest...Trump rarely spoke much truth when he met with the press, he was an expert at getting the gullible to believe oft repeated lies.

"Come on man" is much more refreshing than a lie.
Pssst- they all lie. The press is just much more motivated to investigate a Republicans'.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=barack-obama
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Post by ramblinman Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:09 pm

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tps wrote:leahy will preside - but first had to take a special oath to be impartial - because that will make a difference. lol

All senators, including the likes of Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, took an oath of impartiality.

Here is what Mitch McConnell said during the first Trump impeachment process:  "I'm not an impartial juror.  This is a political process. There's not anything judicial about it.  Impeachment is a political decision."

And here is what he is saying now:  “It is absolutely imperative that we do not allow a half-baked process to short-circuit the due process that former President Trump deserves, or damage the Senate or the presidency.”   This from the same man who wouldn’t allow any testimony at all at Trump’s first impeachment trial.  What a sick joke.

You leave out that the House of Representatives didn't allow any Trump defense or involvement in their "investigation" into the first charges of impeachment. McConnell's quote from the first trial has a bit different meaning when seen in that context.

I didn't leave out jack sh!t.  Didn't allow?  Talk about revisionist history!

In a letter dated Oct 9, 2019 to the Speaker of the House, Trump's attorney said that they would not take part in the proceedings.  He basically labeled those proceedings a sham and said that they could not participate in them.

About that letter, a former chief nominations counsel for Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Gregg Nunziata, tweeted: “Wow. This letter is bananas. A barely-lawyered temper tantrum. A middle finger to Congress and its oversight responsibilities. No member of Congress should accept it.”

George Conway, a lawyer and husband to then Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway, said on Twitter: “I cannot fathom how any self-respecting member of the bar could affix his name to this letter. It’s pure hackery, and it disgraces the profession.”
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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:53 pm

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George Conway, a lawyer and husband to then Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway, said on Twitter: “I cannot fathom how any self-respecting member of the bar could affix his name to this letter. It’s pure hackery, and it disgraces the profession.”
You had me until you included this "hackery".
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Post by ramblinman Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:01 pm

general maximus wrote:I look forward to his plan on helping fix the Serious Issues he campaigned on (CoVid, Poverty, Social Justice, BLM, De-Funding the Police, 2nd Ammend Antifa... Mental Health, Job Stability, Long Term Economic Growth,  and UNITING THE COUNTRY)

Here is his plan on COVID. https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/National-Strategy-for-the-COVID-19-Response-and-Pandemic-Preparedness.pdf

It's about 194 pages long. Since you said you were looking forward to reading it, perhaps you could do so and report back to the board on what you learned. When do you think we will be hearing back from you on that?
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Post by dusty7 Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:09 pm

ramblinman wrote:
general maximus wrote:I look forward to his plan on helping fix the Serious Issues he campaigned on (CoVid, Poverty, Social Justice, BLM, De-Funding the Police, 2nd Ammend Antifa... Mental Health, Job Stability, Long Term Economic Growth,  and UNITING THE COUNTRY)

Here is his plan on COVID.  https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/National-Strategy-for-the-COVID-19-Response-and-Pandemic-Preparedness.pdf

It's about 194 pages long.  Since you said you were looking forward to reading it, perhaps you could do so and report back to the board on what you learned.  When do you think we will be hearing back from you on that?

So far 22 million have been vaccinated, should we start celebrating Biden for that accomplishment yet?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/01/28/covid-19-vaccines-cdc-safety-data-pfizer-moderna-coronavirus/4281434001/
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Post by ramblinman Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:28 pm

dusty7 wrote:
ramblinman wrote:
general maximus wrote:I look forward to his plan on helping fix the Serious Issues he campaigned on (CoVid, Poverty, Social Justice, BLM, De-Funding the Police, 2nd Ammend Antifa... Mental Health, Job Stability, Long Term Economic Growth,  and UNITING THE COUNTRY)

Here is his plan on COVID.  https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/National-Strategy-for-the-COVID-19-Response-and-Pandemic-Preparedness.pdf

It's about 194 pages long.  Since you said you were looking forward to reading it, perhaps you could do so and report back to the board on what you learned.  When do you think we will be hearing back from you on that?

So far 22 million have been vaccinated, should we start celebrating Biden for that accomplishment yet?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/01/28/covid-19-vaccines-cdc-safety-data-pfizer-moderna-coronavirus/4281434001/

Considering how Trump's Warp Speed goal was to have 20 million vaccinated by the end of December, but only 2.8 million were vaccinated by 12/31, I suppose it stands to reason that the a fair portion of the other 19 million vaccinated has come under Biden's 8-day watch.  But, he isn't to be celebrated for that, and neither is Trump to be crucified for falling so short.  

In my opinion, the problem lies primarily in this constitutional republic of ours.  

The federal government took responsibility to deliver vaccines to the states and states are determining how to administer them.  What should have happened, IMO, is for the feds to have set up vaccination centers in every single one of the over 34,000 post offices around the country.   Mobilize the state national guards and the reserves and use their medical personnel/corpsmen to administer the vaccine.  Train others within those services to administer it.  Just get it done.
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Post by Head Idiot Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:45 pm

Did you know the federal government doesn't own, nor insure a good portion of those post offices?

Edit- 73% of US Post Offices are privately owned and insured.
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