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Post by dusty7 on Wed May 03, 2017 12:53 pm

Head Skin wrote:To sort of parrot what everyone else has said- Why pay money to go to an undeveloped private school program when you can go to one of the established better, free programs in the area with equal to or better than education?  I mean, why pay 10k when you can go to St Joe, Tolono, Mahomet, Monticello, etc?

I know when they were really good at the beginning like 3 or 4 of their 5 linemen came from Monticello.  Couple of their girls bball players came from their too.  With Coach Welter getting the Sages rolling and the economy being what it is, that pipeline has been cut.

I don't see them getting that good.  I mean, with the established programs around them able to keep home grown talent and being more of a destination right now there's that.  And they are going to get killed in their new conference.  I just don't see it happening.

They did get a few Monticello kids starting their first few years and I do believe they get a few every year but not in football recently.

It might get a bit tougher for them since Judah Christian is in the process of increasing enrollment and they just build a great sports facility just west of Champaign for all sports including football.


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Post by Bighitter11 on Wed May 03, 2017 1:44 pm

SIFBCoach7 wrote:To build off my earlier comment, as I've been thinking about this, this morning...

STM never has had an identity.  In football, at least.  When you played STM, you knew there were certain players that you had to try and contain, but there was no gameplan to prepare for a scheme.  Does that make sense?  When you play SJO, you know you had (Duval years) to stop outside zone, counter, play-actions, and quick game.  That was the staple.  When you play Wilmington, you have to stop the sweep and counter, or you're dead.  When you play Unity you have to play assignment football and stop the option (even in today's Hamilton spread).  STM has no identity.

Just a few more thoughts on the matter.  

For about 6 Years Between Bombs Away Boswell and Joop at QB it was scramble, scramble, more scramble and bomb it downfield.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by Head Skin on Wed May 03, 2017 1:47 pm

Bighitter11 wrote:
SIFBCoach7 wrote:To build off my earlier comment, as I've been thinking about this, this morning...

STM never has had an identity.  In football, at least.  When you played STM, you knew there were certain players that you had to try and contain, but there was no gameplan to prepare for a scheme.  Does that make sense?  When you play SJO, you know you had (Duval years) to stop outside zone, counter, play-actions, and quick game.  That was the staple.  When you play Wilmington, you have to stop the sweep and counter, or you're dead.  When you play Unity you have to play assignment football and stop the option (even in today's Hamilton spread).  STM has no identity.

Just a few more thoughts on the matter.  

For about 6 Years Between Bombs Away Boswell and Joop at QB it was scramble, scramble, more scramble and bomb it downfield.
2 years ago against Maroa they snapped a dozen or more snaps over their QBs head. I don't know if there was an injury to the C or what, but they looked laughable.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by Head Skin on Wed May 03, 2017 1:48 pm

dusty7 wrote:
Head Skin wrote:To sort of parrot what everyone else has said- Why pay money to go to an undeveloped private school program when you can go to one of the established better, free programs in the area with equal to or better than education?  I mean, why pay 10k when you can go to St Joe, Tolono, Mahomet, Monticello, etc?

I know when they were really good at the beginning like 3 or 4 of their 5 linemen came from Monticello.  Couple of their girls bball players came from their too.  With Coach Welter getting the Sages rolling and the economy being what it is, that pipeline has been cut.

I don't see them getting that good.  I mean, with the established programs around them able to keep home grown talent and being more of a destination right now there's that.  And they are going to get killed in their new conference.  I just don't see it happening.

They did get a few Monticello kids starting their first few years and I do believe they get a few every year but not in football recently.

It might get a bit tougher for them since Judah Christian is in the process of increasing enrollment and they just build a great sports facility just west of Champaign for all sports including football.


I could see Judah being a nice addition to the LOVC or CIC in football.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by OldTitan on Wed May 03, 2017 2:12 pm

One of the problems STM is having is number of students period - not just athletes. It's a problem faced by nearly every downstate Catholic school. Even some schools with outstanding football traditions are struggling to get students. For example, Bloomington Central Catholic has barely over 300 kids - when the new school opened they had 400+. It's my understanding that even SHG has faced declining enrollment.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by Head Skin on Wed May 03, 2017 2:17 pm

I will add this- I don't have anything against STM.  I've never dealt with them in football in any capacity other than having seen them on film a few times.

I did root "against" them for the most part though just because how most people acted when they opened up.  People literally crapped themselves.  When we were talking about adding LSA to our conference you wouldn't believe how many people said "Don't do it!!  They're going to be the next STM!!".  I never really understood that fear or whatever.  And for about the first decade they existed you'd hear someone talk about STM in a manner that made you feel like they'd already won state championships.  And in football.  In fact, if I proposed to someone the LOVC add Judah for football should they ever get it, I can assure you at least one conference member would respond with "No way! They're going to be the next STM!!"

Given my "\"f\"ing it" nature in playing people mostly, this really annoyed me and so I would root for them to fail because of these people.

Just an explanation of my viewpoint personally on STM.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by wolverine55 on Wed May 03, 2017 2:18 pm

I saw St. Thomas More's playoff game against West Hancock this past season. While they were better this year than they had been in the past--judging strictly by record at least--it was a lot of what you guys have stated. They had possibly the three best athletes on the field but there seemed to be a big dropoff after that. But what they did have was good enough to beat WH that day. Won the game with what was essentially a hail mary.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by SIFBCoach7 on Wed May 03, 2017 2:40 pm

dusty7 wrote:

They did get a few Monticello kids starting their first few years and I do believe they get a few every year but not in football recently.

It might get a bit tougher for them since Judah Christian is in the process of increasing enrollment and they just build a great sports facility just west of Champaign for all sports including football.



Does Judah have football? I know they built the field to accommodate a possible addition, but I was unaware of any plan in place to add it. It will be a great school & facility.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by Head Skin on Wed May 03, 2017 3:11 pm

Judah does not have football, but IIRC in one of the articles about the field they said they were hoping to add it in the future after the school was built.

In this article the guy who donated the money for all of it says he hopes they add football. I would think his 5 million or whatever would be dependent on them doing what he wants.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2014-09-05/judah-christian-gift-fathers-dream-realized.html
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by net on Tue May 09, 2017 1:51 pm

riverton is open. apparently the boe president went after hamby, he got ousted by a 4-3 vote. good luck finding someone else as good as him this late.

north mac had 4 candidates and 3 pulled their names.
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Post by Head Skin on Tue May 09, 2017 1:57 pm

net wrote:riverton is open. apparently the boe president went after hamby, he got ousted by a 4-3 vote. good luck finding someone else as good as him this late.

north mac had 4 candidates and 3 pulled their names.
CGB had 7 candidates. 3 were internal. 2 were from out of state- Arizona and Tennessee I think. 1 was a former player. To my knowledge they only had 1 person in the state of Illinois apply that had nothing to do with the program.

There are fewer and fewer people wanting to do this insanity.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by TexFB on Tue May 09, 2017 2:25 pm

They are smart
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Post by Coach53 on Tue May 09, 2017 2:37 pm

These jerks from Tennessee need to stay in their own state....

Lol, Leave us Yankees alone!

Al Gore is a good example of what can happen when they leave their state!

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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by Head Skin on Tue May 09, 2017 3:10 pm

Just seemed random to me.

It wasn't you was it? Very Happy
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Post by OldTitan on Wed May 10, 2017 11:04 am

net wrote:riverton is open. apparently the boe president went after hamby, he got ousted by a 4-3 vote. good luck finding someone else as good as him this late.

north mac had 4 candidates and 3 pulled their names.

Wow. I always tell people I am one board of ed election from being fired...
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Post by Bighitter11 on Wed May 10, 2017 1:53 pm

Dan Carlson will be taking over at North Mac via report on Twitter
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by Head Skin on Wed May 10, 2017 7:32 pm

Who is Dan Carlson?
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by net on Wed May 10, 2017 9:14 pm

Head Skin wrote:Who is Dan Carlson?

former head coach at lindenwood-bellville. i believe one of your former players is there.
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Post by Head Skin on Wed May 10, 2017 9:40 pm

net wrote:
Head Skin wrote:Who is Dan Carlson?

former head coach at lindenwood-bellville. i believe one of your former players is there.
No, he washed out before end of his first semester.
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by net on Wed May 10, 2017 9:47 pm

Head Skin wrote:
net wrote:
Head Skin wrote:Who is Dan Carlson?

former head coach at lindenwood-bellville. i believe one of your former players is there.
No, he washed out before end of his first semester.

i don't understand. you sent his info and stats to all scholarship schools in il. how did he not make it to the nfl? or at least the cfl?
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Post by Head Skin on Wed May 10, 2017 9:52 pm

net wrote:
Head Skin wrote:
net wrote:
Head Skin wrote:Who is Dan Carlson?

former head coach at lindenwood-bellville. i believe one of your former players is there.
No, he washed out before end of his first semester.

i don't understand. you sent his info and stats to all scholarship schools in il. how did he not make it to the nfl? or at least the cfl?
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Re: 2016-17 Head Football Coaching Openings

Post by net on Tue May 23, 2017 9:59 am

apparently rushville is open.
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Post by Bighitter11 on Tue May 23, 2017 10:16 am

Marengo too
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Post by Big E on Tue May 23, 2017 12:01 pm

net wrote:apparently rushville is open.

1st ever win as a head coach was against Rushville.. They made a big mistake...thou shall not play someone who already has 8 semesters of high school. Thank you very much. He was a ton though. He was a 5'10 240 lb fullback.
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