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Post by BirdWatcher on Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:37 pm

OSUBucks wrote:I don't know if Trump really believes that or if it is just for his base. I know a lot of Trump supporters and they typically think global warming is a hoax too.

Global warming is not a hoax.  The earth is getting warmer.  As it always does when emerging from an Ice Age, which we're currently doing.

The real question (whether you think it's a natural warming or "man made") is what to do about it.  And we already have the answer:  Gen IV Nuclear Energy, the kind that EATS nuclear waste from other reactors.  We have the answer.  It just won't be implemented because, uh, "nuclear."

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Gen IV Nuclear, the safest option.

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Post by Teetime on Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:11 pm

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Gen IV Nuclear, the safest option.


I agree.

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Post by OSUBucks on Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:27 pm

I agree too and have for years. Environmentalists won't allow it though.
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Post by BirdWatcher on Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Climate change is predicted (according to the UNIPCC report) to cause an additional 1 million deaths per year, 70 years from now. ONE MILLION DEATHS!!!! 70 years from now.

Meanwhile, lack of access to clean water and sanitation cause 2-3 millions deaths per year. NOW. And we know how to provide clean water and sanitation. We even know the cost ($220 billion according to the UN). So climate change is a "hoax" because it's a political rallying call, not a problem we can't solve.

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Post by Teetime on Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:04 am

220 billion? That is a drop in the bucket. We have a few Americans that could pay for that themselves. The Corona stimulus could have paid for that ten times over. That seems like a low number.

Did the UN forget to carry the nine?

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Post by BirdWatcher on Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:51 am

Unfortunately, Nuclear does not solve forest management issues.

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Post by OSUBucks on Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:08 pm

For Tuesday the statewide positivity rate is holding at 3.6%.
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Post by BirdWatcher on Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:27 pm


No, "drinking bleach" according to CNN. This is what Trump was talking about months ago.

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Post by OSUBucks on Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:46 pm

Today Biden referred to the future administration as Harris-Biden. A lot of people actually believe that Harris will have more responsibility than your typical VP. Perhaps a Freudian slip on his part. Smile
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Post by ramblinman on Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:53 pm

OSUBucks wrote: One thing I know and that is that Trump supporters are more enthusiastic about their guy than the Biden supporters are for theirs. Biden isn't a far left guy but I fear that a lot of people in his administration (if he wins) will pull the country pretty far to the left. I don't have a problem with a moderate regardless of their party affiliation.

That might generally be true, but there are areas where you don't see any Trump signs, and I'm not talking traditionally democratic areas either.

Yesterday, I was in the Chicago suburb of Winnetka...definitely not your typical bastion of liberalism or knee jerk dems.  Got a bit turned around and drove down some streets with homes in the $2 million range, give or take half a million.  If lawn signs are any barometer, Biden will carry Winnetka in a landslide.  If they are not a reliable barometer, then there must be a lot of Winnetka resident Trump supporters in the closet.  Granted, Winnetka is probably below average in terms of the incidence of homeowners putting political signs in their front yards, but I saw at least a dozen Biden signs and zero Trump signs.
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Post by tps on Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:55 pm

BirdWatcher wrote:

No, "drinking bleach" according to CNN.   This is what Trump was talking about months ago.

I remember that. this was a feeble attempt to be sarcastic. i thought it was a little ironic nbc would publish anything in a positive light that trump had mentioned...hcq, uv light, etc...

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Post by Head Idiot on Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:45 pm

OSUBucks wrote:Today Biden referred to the future administration as Harris-Biden. A lot of people actually believe that Harris will have more responsibility than your typical VP. Perhaps a Freudian slip on his part. Smile
Harris called it the Harris administration yesterday. Interesting they both did this so closely together.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/kamala-harris-accidentally-touts-plan-under-harris-administration/
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Post by OSUBucks on Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:56 pm

Head Idiot wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:Today Biden referred to the future administration as Harris-Biden. A lot of people actually believe that Harris will have more responsibility than your typical VP. Perhaps a Freudian slip on his part. Smile
Harris called it the Harris administration yesterday. Interesting they both did this so closely together.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/kamala-harris-accidentally-touts-plan-under-harris-administration/

If Biden wins I wouldn't expect him to run for a 2nd term and instead I'd expect Harris to win the Democratic nomination.
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Post by Head Idiot on Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:00 pm

OSUBucks wrote:
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OSUBucks wrote:Today Biden referred to the future administration as Harris-Biden. A lot of people actually believe that Harris will have more responsibility than your typical VP. Perhaps a Freudian slip on his part. Smile
Harris called it the Harris administration yesterday. Interesting they both did this so closely together.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/kamala-harris-accidentally-touts-plan-under-harris-administration/

If Biden wins I wouldn't expect him to run for a 2nd term and instead I'd expect Harris to win the Democratic nomination.
I doubt he makes it through his 1st term. In fact, I'd wager hugely it doesn't happen. Depends on how much time the media allows him to hide in a basement. It could very well be Woodrow Wilson 2.
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Post by OSUBucks on Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:04 pm

Here's potentially more great news on kicking Covid19's ass.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/university-pittsburgh-antibody-neutralizes-coronavirus
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Post by Head Idiot on Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:20 am

Remember when the goal was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed and #flattenthecurve?

That was fun.
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Post by BirdWatcher on Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:32 am

ramblinman wrote: there must be a lot of Winnetka resident Trump supporters in the closet.  

I'm not a lawn-sign guy anyway, but there's no way I'd put a Trump sign up on any property I owned in Illinois. Especially if it was worth $2 million. Way too likely to get vandalized.

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Post by ramblinman on Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:48 am

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ramblinman wrote: there must be a lot of Winnetka resident Trump supporters in the closet.  

I'm not a lawn-sign guy anyway, but there's no way I'd put a Trump sign up on any property I owned in Illinois.   Especially if it was worth $2 million.  Way too likely to get vandalized.

Not in stately Winnetka. Too unseemly. There, fear of being socially ostracized by your neighbors would be far more of a deterrent to putting up a Trump lawn sign than fear of being vandalized.
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Post by BirdWatcher on Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:27 am

ramblinman wrote:...fear of being socially ostracized by your neighbors would be far more of a deterrent to putting up a Trump lawn sign...

Thus, the shy-Trump voter syndrome. And the reason the polls were so wrong in 2016.

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Post by Teetime on Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:26 pm

BirdWatcher wrote:
ramblinman wrote:...fear of being socially ostracized by your neighbors would be far more of a deterrent to putting up a Trump lawn sign...

Thus, the shy-Trump voter syndrome.  And the reason the polls were so wrong in 2016.

But the polls were mostly correct in 2016. I keep posting those polls and they were (when averaged) within 1.1%. They showed Clinton ahead by 3.2% she only won by 2.1%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

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Post by Teetime on Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:42 pm

According to Nate Silver, Biden needs to win by 3%-4% in order to have a 74% chance of winning the Electoral College vote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nate-silver-electoral-college-for-biden-not-safe-unless-he-wins-popular-vote-by-5-plus-points

If he wins by 4% to 5% he has an 89% chance of winning the Electoral College.

A win by more than 4% in the popular vote is a relative landslide given the make-up of the country. Plus, we still have the debates in which Biden is not expected to be able to either understand or speak the English language given his mental deterioration. It looks bad for Joe.

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Post by BirdWatcher on Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:49 pm

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Only Rasmussen (right-leaning) had Trump winning....

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Post by Teetime on Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:11 pm

Only Rasmussen had it wrong. Trump lost by 2.1%

Actually, Rasmussen got it right a week later when their poll (in your post) was spot on. Clinton by two percent.

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