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Post by Bighitter11 on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:16 am

Fire Rickey and Fire him now!

I dont want to see Edwin E in the lineup again this year. He is washed up and done he cant even hit .200. Also what the hell is he thinking using Zach Collins as a PH yesterday that guy in 2 years has yet to hit. I want Yermi Mercedes in the lineup dude crushed it all spring training let him DH or PH. Better Jump on the A's early today. First one to score and put pressure on the other i think wins.
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Post by wilky on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:28 am

Head Idiot wrote:
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Head Idiot wrote:Starting to understand why the Cubs moved away from Renteria.

he sure does put out some interesting lineups and bullpen situations.
He could be Jerry Manuel. Great development guy, can't get them to the next level. It happens.

Bring back Ozzie Laughing

probably the only plausible way to make me become a cubs fan. i loathe that man. i cant even watch him after the games. i am not sure how but his communications skills get worse with time, not better. i can understand about every 5th word he says.

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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:27 pm

Bottom of the 4th was hard to watch. Rookie or not, an MLB pitcher cannot walk in 2 runs. That's just embarrassing.

And Sox should have been up 3-4 runs after the first 2 innings. Left way too many runners on base.

Ricky burning through the bullpen.
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:30 pm

wilky wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
wilky wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Starting to understand why the Cubs moved away from Renteria.

he sure does put out some interesting lineups and bullpen situations.
He could be Jerry Manuel. Great development guy, can't get them to the next level. It happens.

Bring back Ozzie Laughing

probably the only plausible way to make me become a cubs fan. i loathe that man. i cant even watch him after the games. i am not sure how but his communications skills get worse with time, not better. i can understand about every 5th word he says.

Fans are stupid. What was Ozzie's record with the White Sox, minus 2005?

I'll take Ozzie as the manager as long as he brings with a 2005 Dye, Crede, Uribe, Podsednik, Pierzynski, Rowand, Konerko, Buerhle, Jenks, Garland, and Garcia. 😆
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Post by Head Idiot on Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:44 pm

Without 05? 579-564. The same winning percentage as Tony LaRussa's 8 years in Chicago.
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Post by tps on Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:52 pm

White sox pitchers body language is terrible.

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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:01 pm

The worst part of 2005 was winning a WS with Ozzie and Kenny Williams. 😆
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:05 pm

Head Idiot wrote:Without 05? 579-564. The same winning percentage as Tony LaRussa's 8 years in Chicago.

Right.

So fans are wanting to bring back a guy who, outside of 1 season, was a .500 manager.

And those fans are also forgetting what a jackass Ozzie was, especially his last season.

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Post by Head Idiot on Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:21 pm

19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Without 05? 579-564. The same winning percentage as Tony LaRussa's 8 years in Chicago.

Right.

So fans are wanting to bring back a guy who, outside of 1 season, was a .500 manager.

And those fans are also forgetting what a jackass Ozzie was, especially his last season.

Being a 500 manager puts you in the top 5 managers all time with the Sox.
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Post by Head Idiot on Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:22 pm

This game has been a managerial abortion.
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:46 pm

Head Idiot wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Without 05? 579-564. The same winning percentage as Tony LaRussa's 8 years in Chicago.

Right.

So fans are wanting to bring back a guy who, outside of 1 season, was a .500 manager.

And those fans are also forgetting what a jackass Ozzie was, especially his last season.

Being a 500 manager puts you in the top 5 managers all time with the Sox.

Well, you can have Ozzie. He's a jackass and I don't want him back as manager.
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Post by Head Idiot on Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:15 pm

Perhaps you missed the smiley indicating it was a joke.

That being said, I'd rather have an asshole who can win games than whatever the \"f\"ing Ricky did today.
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:23 pm

Head Idiot wrote:Perhaps you missed the smiley indicating it was a joke.

That being said, I'd rather have an asshole who can win games than whatever the \"f\"ing Ricky did today.

Well, with Ozzie, you definitely get the asshole part.
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Post by Head Idiot on Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:26 pm

19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Perhaps you missed the smiley indicating it was a joke.

That being said, I'd rather have an asshole who can win games than whatever the \"f\"ing Ricky did today.

Well, with Ozzie, you definitely get the asshole part.
Nick Saban and Bill Belichick are complete asses. I'd love to have the baseball equivalent on the southside.
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:46 pm

Head Idiot wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Perhaps you missed the smiley indicating it was a joke.

That being said, I'd rather have an asshole who can win games than whatever the \"f\"ing Ricky did today.

Well, with Ozzie, you definitely get the asshole part.
Nick Saban and Bill Belichick are complete asses. I'd love to have the baseball equivalent on the southside.

Ozzie definitely out-assholes both those guys.

The winning? Not so much.
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Post by Head Idiot on Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:13 pm

19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Perhaps you missed the smiley indicating it was a joke.

That being said, I'd rather have an asshole who can win games than whatever the \"f\"ing Ricky did today.

Well, with Ozzie, you definitely get the asshole part.
Nick Saban and Bill Belichick are complete asses. I'd love to have the baseball equivalent on the southside.

Ozzie definitely out-assholes both those guys.

The winning? Not so much.
Nick Saban stepped over a player having a seizure to get to his office.

I don't care what you think of Ozzie. He has never done anything approaching that.
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:24 pm

Head Idiot wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Perhaps you missed the smiley indicating it was a joke.

That being said, I'd rather have an asshole who can win games than whatever the \"f\"ing Ricky did today.

Well, with Ozzie, you definitely get the asshole part.
Nick Saban and Bill Belichick are complete asses. I'd love to have the baseball equivalent on the southside.

Ozzie definitely out-assholes both those guys.

The winning? Not so much.
Nick Saban stepped over a player having a seizure to get to his office.

I don't care what you think of Ozzie. He has never done anything approaching that.

Well, the Saban story has never been told by anyone other than Heath Evans. And he is a giant piece of crap.

Ozzie"s assholery has all been on public display.


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Post by OSUBucks on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:41 pm

It should be illegal to say Ozzie's name in the same sentence as the great Nick Saban. Laughing
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Post by 19delta on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:49 pm

OSUBucks wrote:It should be illegal to say Ozzie's name in the same sentence as the great Nick Saban. Laughing

I don't know how this discussion arrived at this point. Truth be told, I don't even know what the arguments are anymore! 😆
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Post by Bighitter11 on Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:20 am

Despite Rickys blunder they still had chances to win. Supposed MVP Jose Abreau failed to knock in runs with Bases Loaded, 2 On and Bases Loaded again. Way too many guys left on base. So many times they were one more hit away from a huge inning.

Big things ahead for this team though. Maybe a year early but i enjoyed the heck out of them.
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Post by wilky on Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:32 am

i agree big hitter. Hope crochet isnt hurt badly. They got cold at the wrong time and couldnt get the one hit they needed the last 12ish games of the season. Prior to that it seemed they got every hit they needed.

Time to talk off season. The core is in place for years.

-Goals would be to extend giolito.
-Colome is a FA and if there is a better option I am all for that, his metrics did not indicate his production this year and I fear an expensive regression to the mean there ala herrera.
-Sign Mccann as the best back up in the league. (if Grandal has any value trade him and use collins as the back up)
-IF they dont think Engel can play RF then sign one (I love ENGEL, great def and showed he can hit this year)
-Give Trevor Bauer his one year deal and welcome that crazy to the southside.
-Sign 1 or 2 proven RPs. (sox have a tremendous amount of arm talent in the pen, all unproven)
-Give lopez and rodon to the cubs. free, here take these.
-Let encarcion walk. leave DH for vaughn, collins, mccann or to spell jose and eloy

Wishful thinking rotation of Giolito, Kleuchel, Bauer, Kopech, Dunning (cease and crochet in the pen).


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Post by Bighitter11 on Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:44 am

I could see crochet and that big arm becoming the closer.
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Post by wilky on Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:58 am

same with kopech. both young, both maybe have a injury history (depending on crochet status). Dont want to see them used as SPs if their arms arent ready or if RR is gonna pull them after 20 pitches everytime they let a runner on base. If there is a time to use them as RPs it is now while they are dirt cheap.

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Post by Teetime on Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:56 am

There are big things ahead for the SOX. I know losing in the playoffs sucks (I have seen my team do it lots of times).

The SOX are going to be in the ALCS in 2021 and might be in the World Series. I predict they will be.

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Post by Head Idiot on Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:31 pm

I see this season being a lot like 2000. Young, exciting, unexpected core of future stars (Konerko, Buehrle, Lee, Ordonez) led by a grizzled MVP candidate (Thomas). Could very well flounder for a couple years due to inexperience and a well intentioned, good guy who is a bad manager.

I'm all for avoiding 2001, 2002 and 2003 Part 2.

Edit- As usual with coaches, I was all for giving Rick the benefit of the doubt. The past week plus whatever the \"f\"ing yesterday was has me firmly in the fire the bum category. How do you trot out a million pitchers yesterday and not put out your most playoff experienced one with Gio?

Edit edit- because they didn't even have him on the roster for the playoffs.
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