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Post by OSUBucks on Fri May 29, 2020 2:08 pm

MPD Police Officer Derek Chauvin has been taken into custody. I think everyone has seen the video by now. My wife and I both think he should be tried for murder. Among the witnesses was a woman who is a first responder who works for the Minneapolis Fire Department. She told the officer that he needed to get his knee off the victims neck or he could kill him but her pleas were ignored and the victim was not resisting.
Also the Democrats, including Biden, are already politicizing this accusing Trump of inciting violence. Yesterday afternoon they were showing some of the looting that's taking place. There were people walking out of a local Target store with TV's, others just throwing bricks through windows. Last night a Precinct police station was burned down. For some gang members this is just an excuse to cause mayhem. Trump doesn't need to incite anybody, they are doing just fine stealing and vandalizing on their own.

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Post by net on Fri May 29, 2020 2:12 pm

everything is always trump's fault. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Head Idiot on Fri May 29, 2020 2:25 pm

net wrote:everything is always trump's fault. Rolling Eyes
Well, duh.

We obviously had no problems before him...
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Post by 19delta on Fri May 29, 2020 2:45 pm

I know this won't be really popular here, but:

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

--Frederick Douglass
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Post by Head Idiot on Fri May 29, 2020 4:48 pm

19delta wrote:I know this won't be really popular here, but:

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

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Is this the Democrat mission statement? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by Pike Bishop on Fri May 29, 2020 6:09 pm

[quote="19delta"]I know this won't be really popular here, but:

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

--Frederick Douglass[/quote

Currently reading a huge biography about him, very interesting an outspoken man who ended up a Republican.

I have watched two videos/from two different angles of the Floyd death. It is tough, sickening to watch. On the way back from working out, Fox News said they have charged the police officer with 3rd degree murder. They feel it should up graded to 2nd degree. I have watched a few videos where people were peacefully/lawfully protesting. Unfortunately, their peaceful protest got highjacked by a$$holes who thought it was a great opportunity to get free sh$$ and Antifa who thought it was a great time to burn down and destroy things. There were videos of armed men, Black and White, protecting their property, Black business owners crying because their time, energy, investment is being destroyed. One looter was confronted as he left a store with an armful of free sh$$, was asked if he cared about his community? His answer - No. The policemen involved, all of them, need the be arrested, charged, prosecuted, if found guilty, sent to prison. The peaceful protesters - what I have seen on the news their story is not being told. The rioters, they are being covered big time and their behavior is being enabled and excused.

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Post by 19delta on Fri May 29, 2020 6:16 pm

Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.

Flame away. Go ahead and burn me down for saying that
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Post by OSUBucks on Fri May 29, 2020 6:26 pm

19delta wrote:Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.

Flame away. Go ahead and burn me down for saying that

Seriously I am upset by both actions. The policeman's actions are inexcusable and he will pay the price for this. By no means does his actions give others the right to steal or destroy property of others. I hope the police can use video to identify those who stole those TV's and prosecute them. Keep in mind that many of those doing the looting don't care about what happened to George Floyd, it just gave them an excuse to spread mayhem.
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Post by OSUBucks on Fri May 29, 2020 9:25 pm

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Post by Teetime on Fri May 29, 2020 9:25 pm

19delta wrote:Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.


I’m with you.

That made me sick.

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Post by OSUBucks on Fri May 29, 2020 9:37 pm

Teetime wrote:
19delta wrote:Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.


I’m with you.

That made me sick.

What the officer did was surely worse but you would agree that what he did doesn't excuse the behavior that followed, right?
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Post by 19delta on Fri May 29, 2020 10:41 pm

OSUBucks wrote:
Teetime wrote:
19delta wrote:Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.


I’m with you.

That made me sick.

What the officer did was surely worse but you would agree that what he did doesn't excuse the behavior that followed, right?

Nothing excuses what those cops did.

Don't focus on the effects. Focus on the cause. If George Floyd is still alive, there are no riots and looting.
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Post by OSUBucks on Fri May 29, 2020 11:02 pm

19delta wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:
Teetime wrote:
19delta wrote:Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.


I’m with you.

That made me sick.

What the officer did was surely worse but you would agree that what he did doesn't excuse the behavior that followed, right?

Nothing excuses what those cops did.

Don't focus on the effects. Focus on the cause. If George Floyd is still alive, there are no riots and looting.

Agree that there's no excuse for the cops. If someone tries to burn my house down though because a cop did something very bad to someone else I'd probably shoot them. Wink I definitely understand the outrage, especially since this is the 3rd time this year that law enforcement has done something similar to this. Changes have to be made. I know that there will always be some bad apples that are cops.
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Post by 19delta on Fri May 29, 2020 11:18 pm

OSUBucks wrote:
19delta wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:
Teetime wrote:
19delta wrote:Social media pretty much sucked today. Most of the white people on my feed who felt a need to post about what happened were more pissed off about a Target getting looted than they were about the killing that preceded it.


I’m with you.

That made me sick.

What the officer did was surely worse but you would agree that what he did doesn't excuse the behavior that followed, right?

Nothing excuses what those cops did.

Don't focus on the effects. Focus on the cause. If George Floyd is still alive, there are no riots and looting.

Agree that there's no excuse for the cops. If someone tries to burn my house down though because a cop did something very bad to someone else I'd probably shoot them. Wink I definitely understand the outrage, especially since this is the 3rd time this year that law enforcement has done something similar to this. Changes have to be made. I know that there will always be some bad apples that are cops.

Bucks...this is a damn good post.

We need to do better. Black people can't cure racism. White people, who most benefit from racism, need to rise up and speak out against outrages like this. It should be easy. Every human soul on Earth should be infuriated about what happened to George Floyd.
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Post by Head Idiot on Sat May 30, 2020 8:29 am

I have not seen the video. I do not need to see the video to know that this was unnecessary, excessive and tragic. In no way should this circumstance ended in this manner.

That being said, how often do you think people say this kind of stuff to cops? Having dealt with the kind of people they deal with and having talked to a few officers here in Decatur, I can assure you it's nearly every day. That is in no way excusing the action. But people act like this isn't said to officers nearly on the daily. Hell, we had a 130lb woman who said she couldn't breathe because she was cuffed. In front of her.

No excuses whatsoever ever. Just maybe some perspective. Besides as every wrestling official ever has repeatedly said- if you can talk, you can breathe.
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Post by Teetime on Sat May 30, 2020 9:27 am

I believe this issue of blacks being killed by cops was the exact same issue that some black athletes were protesting in a nonviolent manner by taking a knee.

Some lost their jobs, others were shouted down.

So the lesson that was learned was “don’t bring me any of that nonviolent liberal snowflake protest bullshit”.


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Post by Head Idiot on Sat May 30, 2020 10:49 pm

There was a "protest" in Decatur today. Looks as if 2/3 of the protesters were white. It even included a nice Democratic Socialist flag.

https://herald-review.com/news/photos-protest-in-downtown-decatur-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/collection_bfb43609-5f38-5542-bb69-aa2a67d03a0c.html#1
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Post by Teetime on Sun May 31, 2020 4:00 am

Head Idiot wrote:There was a "protest" in Decatur today. Looks as if 2/3 of the protesters were white. It even included a nice Democratic Socialist flag.

https://herald-review.com/news/photos-protest-in-downtown-decatur-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/collection_bfb43609-5f38-5542-bb69-aa2a67d03a0c.html#1


Good for them. Nothing wrong with white people recognizing injustice.

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Post by Head Idiot on Sun May 31, 2020 8:10 am

Teetime wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:There was a "protest" in Decatur today. Looks as if 2/3 of the protesters were white. It even included a nice Democratic Socialist flag.

https://herald-review.com/news/photos-protest-in-downtown-decatur-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/collection_bfb43609-5f38-5542-bb69-aa2a67d03a0c.html#1


Good for them. Nothing wrong with white people recognizing injustice.
Didn't say there was, just thought it was odd given our large AA demographics.

The Dem Socialist flag is just one of my favorite parts of protests. No matter what the cause is, everyone with an axe to grind shows up.
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Post by net on Sun May 31, 2020 9:21 am

Head Idiot wrote:There was a "protest" in Decatur today. Looks as if 2/3 of the protesters were white. It even included a nice Democratic Socialist flag.

https://herald-review.com/news/photos-protest-in-downtown-decatur-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/collection_bfb43609-5f38-5542-bb69-aa2a67d03a0c.html#1

democratic socialist flag?

protest by 5 people at main and morton in jacksonville on saturday.

supposed to be a large gathering at the abe statue by the state capitol building monday at 3pm. there's a flyer out telling you what to bring with you to a 'peaceful' protest. like wet your mask so it's harder for tear gas to penetrate, bring a water bottle to flush you eyes, etc. i'll see if i can find that.
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Post by Head Idiot on Sun May 31, 2020 4:08 pm

net wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:There was a "protest" in Decatur today. Looks as if 2/3 of the protesters were white. It even included a nice Democratic Socialist flag.

https://herald-review.com/news/photos-protest-in-downtown-decatur-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/collection_bfb43609-5f38-5542-bb69-aa2a67d03a0c.html#1

democratic socialist flag?

protest by 5 people at main and morton in jacksonville on saturday.

supposed to be a large gathering at the abe statue by the state capitol building monday at 3pm. there's a flyer out telling you what to bring with you to a 'peaceful' protest. like wet your mask so it's harder for tear gas to penetrate, bring a water bottle to flush you eyes, etc. i'll see if i can find that.
The red flag being carried in some of the photos is a Dem Socialist flag.
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Post by Head Idiot on Sun May 31, 2020 6:22 pm

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Post by Pike Bishop on Sun May 31, 2020 7:25 pm

net wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:There was a "protest" in Decatur today. Looks as if 2/3 of the protesters were white. It even included a nice Democratic Socialist flag.

https://herald-review.com/news/photos-protest-in-downtown-decatur-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/collection_bfb43609-5f38-5542-bb69-aa2a67d03a0c.html#1

democratic socialist flag?

protest by 5 people at main and morton in jacksonville on saturday.

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They are closing all the Walmarts and Targets in Springfield at 6:30pm and putting up barricades. They are expecting groups from St. Louis and Champaign coming in to raise hell. The northland Walmart is rumored to be hit first. My son-in-law works mid-shift and has already been called in.

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Post by OSUBucks on Sun May 31, 2020 7:30 pm


I talked to a well informed law enforcement source just a while ago. A lot of the protesters aren't local people, they are basically rioters for hire. The mayor of Atlanta, who is an African American woman, said the same thing on Meet The Press this morning. Some of the protesters down there actually got lost because they weren't from that area. There were also some State Police vehicles that were set on fire in Champaign today. There are some pro anarchist folks as well as pro Socialists who are responsible for some of this violence. The timing is pretty bad not that there would ever be a good time for this level of violence. Businesses that have just recently opened their doors are now being looted. There are still some well intentioned peaceful protesters out there but they have no control over the rioters.
People who knew George Floyd described him as a friendly and peaceful man. What a piss poor way to honor his memory.
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Post by BirdWatcher on Sun May 31, 2020 8:13 pm

I was at the microbrew with my ex-LEO friend who runs a security firm in Kalamazoo, MI. He was (sorta) in contact with his guys by phone, as they had security on a couple big hotels. I asked how it was going up there, he said "Probably not good. I tried to call a couple active police captains I know, they didn't answer. If they're too busy to answer their phones, they're busy doing 'something else' "

Nothing like some free Nikes or Apple products to honor a dead black man hundreds of miles away.

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