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Post by OSUBucks Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:52 am

Teetime wrote:Tell me the anti Semitic remarks she has made that have you so upset. Quote her if possible.

I know one remark was that the Jewish lobby bought the support of Jews. I say that about the oil lobby buying republican congressmen. How are those two different?

Let’s have a real adult conversation about this and then you can call me every name in the book.

I heard some of the comments attributed to her today on MSNBC in passing but I'm not going to try to quote them as I can't recall them precisely. There was also a quote she made before this latest event about Israel that I wish I could remember. I was trying to talk to my wife while it was on TV and just didn't get all of it. MSNBC certainly isn't right leaning and they considered the comments out of line. While I think it's unfortunate and somewhat disgusting that we have a member of Congress who is apparently biased against Jews I am not personally upset. We live in an age in which people get offended pretty easily and react pretty strongly to speech. I know folks who get bent out of shape about such things as the name of a football team and demand that they be forced to change their name. I'm not politically correct and I'm not one of those guys.
I am strongly Independent. I have too many issues with our two parties to say that I affiliate with one over the other. I think the Democrat majority in the House is somewhat a mess though not as incompetent as the GOP minority in the Illinois Legislature. I don't want you to think that I'm bashing the Democrats because I'm biased against them. I just call them like I see them.
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Post by 19delta Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:02 am

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Teetime wrote:Tell me the anti Semitic remarks she has made that have you so upset. Quote her if possible.

I know one remark was that the Jewish lobby bought the support of Jews. I say that about the oil lobby buying republican congressmen. How are those two different?

Let’s have a real adult conversation about this and then you can call me every name in the book.

I heard some of the comments attributed to her today on MSNBC in passing but I'm not going to try to quote them as I can't recall them precisely. There was also a quote she made before this latest event about Israel that I wish I could remember. I was trying to talk to my wife while it was on TV and just didn't get all of it.  MSNBC certainly isn't right leaning and they considered the comments out of line.  While I think it's unfortunate and somewhat disgusting that we have a member of Congress who is apparently biased against Jews I am not personally upset. We live in an age in which people get offended pretty easily and react pretty strongly to speech.  I know folks who get bent out of shape about such things as the name of a football team and demand that they be forced to change their name. I'm not politically correct and I'm not one of those guys.
  I am strongly Independent. I have too many issues with our two parties to say that I affiliate with one over the other. I think the Democrat majority in the House is somewhat a mess though not as incompetent as the GOP minority in the Illinois Legislature. I don't want you to think that I'm bashing the Democrats because I'm biased against them. I just call them like I see them.

You sure are sounding like one of these easily-offended people you described...

What, exactly, did Omar say that is so offensive? I think you have to squint pretty hard to see her comments as anti-Semitic. Criticizing the Israeli government, or the United States government for supporting Israel is NOT being anti-Semitic.

Toughen up, snowflake.
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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:53 am

19delta wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:Pelosi appears weak as I just saw her on TV today and she was careful not to criticize Ilhan Omar for her public anti Semitic statements. Democrats have tolerated racists in their own party for years like Robert Byrd but they would be having a fit if a Republican had made the comments that Omar made. Remember, there was widespread opposition to Pelosi being named Speaker again and she had to agree to only serve no more than 4 more years before they would vote her in as Speaker again. There is an undercurrent of Democratic unrest in the House today. That's why Pelosi is walking on eggshells when discussing the comments of Omar, who BTW refuses to apologize for her statements.


Widespread opposition to Pelosi? What? How many Democrats voted against her for Speaker who weren't these freshmen?
There was enough opposition to her Speakership that she wasn't going to get it without agreeing to only 1 term in the position. I would imagine that if a majority of Dems say they won't vote for her without a 1 term limit that that could be considered widespread.
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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:54 am

Teetime wrote:

What is the Trump party position on improving the economic conditions in Honduras and Nicaragua?
Probably not good, but I'd personally suggest I'd rather spend our money to find ways to keep them in their homes than here.
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Post by Teetime Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:05 am

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Teetime wrote:What is the Trump party position on improving the economic conditions in Honduras and Nicaragua?
Probably not good, but I'd personally suggest I'd rather spend our money to find ways to keep them in their homes than here.


I totally agree with that.

I would rather spend our money helping make their homes ones that they have no interest in leaving permanently. Not on walls to hold the throng back.

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Post by OSUBucks Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:43 am

Head Idiot wrote:
19delta wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:Pelosi appears weak as I just saw her on TV today and she was careful not to criticize Ilhan Omar for her public anti Semitic statements. Democrats have tolerated racists in their own party for years like Robert Byrd but they would be having a fit if a Republican had made the comments that Omar made. Remember, there was widespread opposition to Pelosi being named Speaker again and she had to agree to only serve no more than 4 more years before they would vote her in as Speaker again. There is an undercurrent of Democratic unrest in the House today. That's why Pelosi is walking on eggshells when discussing the comments of Omar, who BTW refuses to apologize for her statements.


Widespread opposition to Pelosi? What? How many Democrats voted against her for Speaker who weren't these freshmen?
There was enough opposition to her Speakership that she wasn't going to get it without agreeing to only 1 term in the position.  I would imagine that if a majority of Dems say they won't vote for her without a 1 term limit that that could be considered widespread.

Right, looking at the age of the top 3 ranking Democrats in the House Pelosi is 78, Hoyer 79 and Clyburn 78. Maybe it's time to groom younger up and comers for leadership positions.
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Post by Teetime Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:50 am

So the House passed a resolution condemning racism and bigotry.

23 Republicans were opposed.

I'm willing to bet that nothing Rep. Omar said compares in terms of vile hatred of a race or religion as proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the USA.

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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:02 am

Teetime wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:
Teetime wrote:What is the Trump party position on improving the economic conditions in Honduras and Nicaragua?
Probably not good, but I'd personally suggest I'd rather spend our money to find ways to keep them in their homes than here.


I totally agree with that.

I would rather spend our money helping make their homes ones that they have no interest in leaving permanently. Not on walls to hold the throng back.
But that doesn't cure the issue of what to do with those people who are already there.

Also, I'm going to bet the issues in their homelands aren't the only, or maybe even the main, reason they're coming here.
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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:04 am

OSUBucks wrote:Right, looking at the age of the top 3 ranking Democrats in the House Pelosi is 78, Hoyer 79 and Clyburn 78. Maybe it's time to groom younger up and comers for leadership positions.
If I've learned anything from that generation of Americans through my interactions in coaching, or by all the dick pills or look younger, or whatever crap they peddle is they have a real issue accepting the fact that they're getting older and at some point have to give up their power.
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Post by OSUBucks Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:01 pm

Teetime wrote:So the House passed a resolution condemning racism and bigotry.

23 Republicans were opposed.

I'm willing to bet that nothing Rep. Omar said compares in terms of vile hatred of a race or religion as proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the USA.

Well you'd think that the vote would be unanimous. I'm a little puzzled why Liz Cheney voted against it. Not so much Steve King, who has been an embarrassment for years. Pelosi seems to acknowledge the anti Semitic tone of Omar's comments but doesn't think that was the intention.  I understand the origins of why some Americans dislike or mistrust Muslims. It was Muslims that killed 3000 Americans on 9/11, Muslims still commit acts of terrorism against Americans here in the US and abroad. Muslims in the Middle East won't even recognize Israel's right to exist. While I condemn all acts of discrimination in our country, including Muslims, I'm simply trying to explain why you might get a stronger reaction from folks when it's a Muslim making comments construed by many as being anti Semitic.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-03-07/house-passes-resolution-condemning-anti-semitism-bigotry-amid-ilhan-omar-controversy


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Post by 19delta Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:02 pm

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19delta wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:Pelosi appears weak as I just saw her on TV today and she was careful not to criticize Ilhan Omar for her public anti Semitic statements. Democrats have tolerated racists in their own party for years like Robert Byrd but they would be having a fit if a Republican had made the comments that Omar made. Remember, there was widespread opposition to Pelosi being named Speaker again and she had to agree to only serve no more than 4 more years before they would vote her in as Speaker again. There is an undercurrent of Democratic unrest in the House today. That's why Pelosi is walking on eggshells when discussing the comments of Omar, who BTW refuses to apologize for her statements.


Widespread opposition to Pelosi? What? How many Democrats voted against her for Speaker who weren't these freshmen?
There was enough opposition to her Speakership that she wasn't going to get it without agreeing to only 1 term in the position.  I would imagine that if a majority of Dems say they won't vote for her without a 1 term limit that that could be considered widespread.

Meh. She is almost 80 years old. How tough was it for her to say she would only do 1 more term?

At the end of the day, I think there was only 4 non-freshman Democrats who voted against her. That hardly qualifies as "widespread opposition".

The true measure will be whom gets elected Speaker on January 3rd, 2021. I'm pretty confident that the next Speaker will be much more like Pelosi than AOC.
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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:32 pm

No one truly voted against her. There was never a vote until she was approved. The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php
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Post by 19delta Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:26 pm

Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.

More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez
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Post by ramblinman Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:31 pm

Head Idiot wrote:Probably not good, but I'd personally suggest I'd rather spend our money to find ways to keep them in their homes than here.

There are lots of charities that work toward that end.  Off the top of my head:

www.worldvision.org
www.nphusa.org
www.sos-childrensvillages.org
www.plan-international.org

Pretty sure they all offer easy ways to give online if you are interested.
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Post by ramblinman Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:37 pm

19delta wrote:
But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.

More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/no-longer-dirty-word-more-democrats-call-themselves-liberal-n958106

While I understand that liberal does not necessarily mean radical left, it's pretty clear that the Democratic Party has been in a leftward shift for quite a while now.
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Post by OSUBucks Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:39 pm

19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.


More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

I don't think anyone here is suggesting a radical left/Socialist takeover in 2 years but what we are suggesting is that the radical wing has the ear of an increasing number of Democrats, especially younger voters, as well as more Democrats in the House.
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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:04 pm

OSUBucks wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.


More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

I don't think anyone here is suggesting a radical left/Socialist takeover in 2 years but what we are suggesting is that the radical wing has the ear of an increasing number of Democrats, especially younger voters, as well as more Democrats in the House.
Precisely. You don't have to be Speaker to wield political power.

I mean, AOC's been in office for how long? 2 months? Look at the amount of clout she's already wielding.
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Post by Head Idiot Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:36 pm

Thank God!! The sage political voice we've all been waiting for has arrived!!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/06/entertainment/taylor-swift-elle-30/index.html
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Post by 19delta Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:07 pm

OSUBucks wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.


More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

I don't think anyone here is suggesting a radical left/Socialist takeover in 2 years but what we are suggesting is that the radical wing has the ear of an increasing number of Democrats, especially younger voters, as well as more Democrats in the House.

Just like the Tea Partiers had the ear of an increasing number of Republicans 5 years ago? What happened to them? Is the Tea Party still even a thing?
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Post by 19delta Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:12 pm

OSUBucks wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.


More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

I don't think anyone here is suggesting a radical left/Socialist takeover....

Re-read your earlier posts. That's exactly what you were suggesting. Maybe not in 2 years, but that was certainly the point of your earlier posts.

Me, on the other hand? I'm willing to bet that AOC and her ilk are an afterthought by 2021 and will have lost what influence they are currently enjoying.
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Post by 19delta Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:17 pm

Head Idiot wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.


More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

I don't think anyone here is suggesting a radical left/Socialist takeover in 2 years but what we are suggesting is that the radical wing has the ear of an increasing number of Democrats, especially younger voters, as well as more Democrats in the House.
Precisely.  You don't have to be Speaker to wield political power.

I mean, AOC's been in office for how long?  2 months?  Look at the amount of clout she's already wielding.

What committees is she on? How many bills is she getting through? Other than making headlines with her economic illiteracy, what real clout does she have? Is Pelosi and the Democratic leadership  really going to put her in charge of anything important?

She raises a lot of money, no doubt. But she needs to. Republican fundraisers LOVE her, I'm sure. She is a gift from the Gods...
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Post by OSUBucks Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:33 pm

19delta wrote:
OSUBucks wrote:
19delta wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:No one truly voted against her.  There was never a vote until she was approved.  The negotiating was all done behind closed doors.

But there was talk even before the November election that should the Dems take back the House, there was going to be serious hurdles for Nancy to clear to become Speaker again.

This article is from August 15th- https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Is-the-November-election-Pelosi-s-last-stand-13159467.php


Again...if the House selects a 30-year-old self-identified Latino Socialist as the next Speaker on January 3rd, 2021, I will be the first person to admit I'm wrong.

But, until that happens, I am going to believe that the takeover of the Democratic Party by the radical left has been greatly exaggerated.


More likely, the Democratic Party will subsume AOC and her ilk, much like what happened to the Tea Parties within the Republican Party.

And if AOC refuses to play ball? There is always the primary:
https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fhouse%2F427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

I don't think anyone here is suggesting a radical left/Socialist takeover....

Re-read your earlier posts. That's exactly what you were suggesting. Maybe not in 2 years, but that was certainly the point of your earlier posts.

Me, on the other hand? I'm willing to bet that AOC and her ilk are an afterthought by 2021 and will have lost what influence they are currently enjoying.

Your reading comprehension could stand some improvement or you are just trolling.
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Post by Teetime Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:06 pm

ramblinman wrote:
Head Idiot wrote:Probably not good, but I'd personally suggest I'd rather spend our money to find ways to keep them in their homes than here.

There are lots of charities that work toward that end.  Off the top of my head:

www.worldvision.org
www.nphusa.org
www.sos-childrensvillages.org
www.plan-international.org

Pretty sure they all offer easy ways to give online if you are interested.

I'm interested. If you are familiar with them, which does the most good, ramblinman?


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Only because I beat dead horses on Fridays during lent....

From the NY Times 2-11-19:

"Last October, after a crude mail bomb was found in George Soros’s mailbox, Representative Kevin McCarthy, the California Republican who is now the House minority leader, tweeted, “We cannot allow Soros, Steyer and Bloomberg to buy this election!” The tweet, since deleted, was referring to Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg, both of them, like Soros, Jews who are often the object of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. Speaking on CNN, Steyer, who had also been sent a mail bomb, described McCarthy’s tweet as a “straight-up anti-Semitic move.”

So it was a bit rich when, last week, McCarthy posed as the indignant defender of the Jewish people, threatening to force congressional action against two freshman Democratic representatives, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, for their criticism of Israel.

It would have been easy enough for either Omar or Tlaib to point out McCarthy’s cynical hypocrisy. Instead, Omar responded with a blithely incendiary tweet quoting Puff Daddy’s ode to the power of money: “It’s all about the Benjamins, baby.” When an editor at The Forward, a Jewish publication, asked who Omar thinks is paying American politicians to be pro-Israel, she responded, “Aipac!,” meaning the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the United States’ most prominent pro-Israel lobby.

Consciously or not, Omar invoked a poisonous anti-Semitic narrative about Jews using their money to manipulate global affairs. This came just weeks after she’d had to apologize for a 2012 tweet in which she said that Israel had “hypnotized” the world, phrasing that also recalled old canards about occult Jewish power. Her words were a gift to Republicans, who seek to divide the Democrats over Israel, even as their president traffics in anti-Semitic imagery and stereotypes. The knives were out for Omar and she ran right into them.

On Monday afternoon, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the House Democratic leadership rebuked Omar and called on her to apologize for her “use of anti-Semitic tropes and prejudicial accusations about Israel’s supporters.” It was a depressing fall from grace for someone who just weeks ago was being feted as a path breaker, a refugee from Somalia who, alongside Tlaib, rose to become one of America’s first two Muslim congresswomen."


So that is Rep. Omar's vile anti-Semitic trope that caused the shit to hit the fan. Did you think it was worse than that? (Teetime speaking here)

"Not long after Pelosi’s statement, Omar released one of her own, apologizing “unequivocally.” She wrote, “Anti-Semitism is real and I am grateful for Jewish allies and colleagues who are educating me on the painful history of anti-Semitic tropes.” Personally, I’m happy to accept her apology. Progressive American Muslims and Jews should be natural allies; our mutual future depends on deepening this country’s embattled commitment to multiethnic democracy. Prejudice helps bind the modern right together, but unchecked it can rip the left apart."


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